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Your defence!

Guys, let's be honest - being a Snape fan/stan or however you want to call it is cool, nice (especially on this amazing side!), but also it has it's downs. And by downs I mean people.

 

People.

 

Well, some people love Marauders - and hate Snape (but they also love people like Bellatrix, Barty Crouch Junior, etc. etc.). Their reasons are just, well, stupid and stupid. I don't think that I have hearded any resonable, or even CANON reasons for them to hate him. Ofc they can hate who ever they want - it's their life.

But when they start to JUSTIFAY why they hate him, bc they don't want to admin that they hate him for no reasons (which is okay, again their life), they start make up things (that are NOT canon) or they make the truth, black and white.

For example Nevilles's boggart. Oh, how many times have we hear this? And what is intresting, at the same time, they say that they love Remus (who laughed and completly ignored that Snape was Neville's boggart, plus he never reported anything) and McG (who yelled at Neville more when once, - in PoA and GoF - humilieted him in front of everyone).

Don't get me wrong - personaly, I think both, Lupin and McG were great at teaching. But when someone says the they were great but Snape was bad, it's just hypocrisy!

But let's come back.

Not only Marauders stans dislike Snape. Other people too (again they can, their life). And they, just like M stans, make up some stuff.

So, my question is:

What is your tactic? Are you relaxed and calm at the beginning of the "argument" with the person who spreads lies about Snape and then dumps the truth on them, or do you go after them hard from the very beginning?

Or maybe you just don't bother with these people, because you know, that no matter how logical your agruments will be, this persons mind will always make non canon things?

Or do you just ask them to give you, point by point - so you can respond to them clearly - why they think Snape was bad?

Or maybe you never met anyone like that? If that's the case, I'm honestly so jealous of you!

 

Anyway guys, remember - we are the knights in the shinig armor!

We protect Snape's good name - Always!


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This is the story of the Marauders fandom in Korea. When haters made absurd claims about Snape, I refuted them with actual interviews and book content, and then said, “If you know anything about the settings of other characters besides Snape’s, please tell me.”

If say that, the only thing they bring is incorrect settings, rumors, and fanfiction settings.

At one point, they talked about the school violence that Snape suffered. "Rowling was born in '65, so she is insensitive to school violence." came up with a really ridiculous theory like this.

So I said this. “The reason Rowling created Pansy was because the writer herself suffered from school violence. Harry is described as being bullied in up to volume 5 of the story. And Rowling was a teacher, and Harry Potter was created in the 1990s, when the Children's Human Rights Act was enacted in 1997. Do you seriously think the author is advocating school violence?" I said and they fell silent.

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For reference, the reason why Korean Marauders fans defend school violence against Snape is, "I want to imagine the clean and happy school days of the characters I love, but I think that's impossible because of Snape." The beautiful story of the Marauders they hope for is only possible in fanfiction. In fact, in Korean fanfiction, Snape's becoming a Death Eater is often blamed on Tobias' abuse rather than the Marauders' fault. The Marauders' school violence is toned down in Korean fan fiction. In reality, James Potter played a big role. If you think about how Cedric Diggory became a Death Eater after being ridiculed at school, school violence is never a problem to be taken lightly.

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Out of curiosity, are the Marauders or Snape more popular over in South Korea, and how big is the difference?

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Quote from The Gestalt Prince on March 20, 2024, 6:15 pm

Out of curiosity, are the Marauders or Snape more popular over in South Korea, and how big is the difference?

First of all, there are a lot of people in the general public who like Snape. Toys are also really popular. If you look at the video summarizing Snape's life and the video of the Marauders, there are an overwhelming number of people who criticize the Marauders (saying that if something like that happens to me, I'll become a gangster to cut off their heads).

However, people who do not read Harry Potter and only read fanfiction are divided into those who support Snape and those who support the Marauders. The real problem is Marauders fans who only read fanfiction. After reading fan fiction, have positive thoughts about the Marauders, but when read the original work, they deny reality... And the worst thing is that they spread rumors about Snape, and the rumors spread a lot before 2016. And the rumors calmed down a lot over a long period of time between 2017 and 2024. Thanks to the efforts of fans, the correct settings have been organized and made known. In some ways, our country is similar to other countries, but I think there are still many things that are better. All rumors, the process by which they spread, and the events that occurred are organized on a widely viewed wiki.

It's been a little over a year since I became a Harry Potter fan, but the reason I know all these facts is because I've seen all the materials that have organized them all. It was the love of the fans.

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Okay, it must have been an ATYD scenario then; it's insane how much influence fanfics can have, even to the point of overriding canon.
Quote from comet on March 20, 2024, 6:11 pm

For reference, the reason why Korean Marauders fans defend school violence against Snape is, "I want to imagine the clean and happy school days of the characters I love, but I think that's impossible because of Snape." The beautiful story of the Marauders they hope for is only possible in fanfiction. In fact, in Korean fanfiction, Snape's becoming a Death Eater is often blamed on Tobias' abuse rather than the Marauders' fault. The Marauders' school violence is toned down in Korean fan fiction. In reality, James Potter played a big role. If you think about how Cedric Diggory became a Death Eater after being ridiculed at school, school violence is never a problem to be taken lightly.

Now, on Cedric becoming a Death Eater: this addition to canon is one of the worst creative decisions I've ever seen regarding canon. There's no way someone like Cedric would end up like that.

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Quote from The Gestalt Prince on March 20, 2024, 6:56 pm
Okay, it must have been an ATYD scenario then; it's insane how much influence fanfics can have, even to the point of overriding canon.
Quote from comet on March 20, 2024, 6:11 pm

For reference, the reason why Korean Marauders fans defend school violence against Snape is, "I want to imagine the clean and happy school days of the characters I love, but I think that's impossible because of Snape." The beautiful story of the Marauders they hope for is only possible in fanfiction. In fact, in Korean fanfiction, Snape's becoming a Death Eater is often blamed on Tobias' abuse rather than the Marauders' fault. The Marauders' school violence is toned down in Korean fan fiction. In reality, James Potter played a big role. If you think about how Cedric Diggory became a Death Eater after being ridiculed at school, school violence is never a problem to be taken lightly.

Now, on Cedric becoming a Death Eater: this addition to canon is one of the worst creative decisions I've ever seen regarding canon. There's no way someone like Cedric would end up like that.

I think that's the worst and there are a lot of people who deny it. It's as bad as Harry saying to Albus, "I wish you weren't my son." The only meaningful use of the canon as a formula is to help us realize the seriousness of school violence... and that's it. It's absurd and bitter that there was really nothing useful about it...

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Since I'm not that popular in fandom, I luckily don't have Marauder fans coming after me. If they would, I'd probably just block them. I've got better things to do with my time than explain a character to people who don't even want to like him. At this point, I don't even read posts anymore that defend Snape because I've read all of the arguments so often that I can't be bothered to read through them yet again. I'm in awe, however, of fans who do respond to those posts and try to get some canon back into their heads. I'm not patient enough for that. 😂
For that reason, I don't bother to seek Marauder fans out or chime in on their posts either. I don't care if they like or dislike Snape. They have their space online and I have mine and that's fine. I prefer to surround myself with like-minded people and don't look elsewhere. ^^

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I'm done with publicly defending Snape in HP fandom spaces, it's not a nice experience to counterargue against a Snater only to get cyberbullied by Snaters and marauder stans.

I agree about marauder stans with you @cometis. As of now, most of the marauder fen are ATYD/fanfic fans who have either not read OG books or deny reality of canon. They are mostly young people who self insert into their favs as young rich adventurous boys enjoying harmless pranks while standing as heroes of justice against dark magic, sexism, racism etc(far from actual truth). Snape is a person whom they can't justify being bullied for the awesome Marauders so Snape must be worst, he must become evil incarnation and all the bad in the world for their precious Marauders to have higher ground. That's why Marauder stans of current age tend to hate Snape and spread hate against him.

 

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