"What if ... ?" scenarios
This is a place to discuss "What if ... ?" scenarios.
If you don't have a real plot idea for a fic but still would like to get feedback to a scenario that you have in mind then this is the right place for you.
I will start this topic with the following "What if ... ?" scenario that I had in mind all day long today:
Voldemort won the war. Ginny does see her world falling apart but gets offered a second chance… The issue with that Second chance is that she would go to Hogwarts with Sev, Lily And the Marauders.
These are the questions that directly come to my mind and I would like to hear your opinion:
What if Ginny actually developed a crush on the young Sev?
Would she even stand a chance against Lily?
Would Sev even be interested in her?
And how would the others react to her?
What if Ginny actually developed a crush on the young Sev? - It would be really interesting scenario. Ginny would have to get over Harry because he couldn't have him in such scenario and I don't see her liking James Potter despite similarities in looks with Harry. It would be interesting but have Ginny develop crush later, otherwise it would be weird to see her crushing over someone younger than her.
Would she even stand a chance against Lily? and Would Sev even be interested in her? : If she shows true kindness, willing to listen to Snape and aggressively support him against marauders, sure. Snape's love on Lily was based on her being only girl who liked Snape and showed kindness to him. So if Ginny tries her best, she stands a good hell of a chance. Same reason, if Ginny goes all in, Snape can definitely get interested in her.
And how would the others react to her?: As she was a trained and skilled member of DA, Dumbledore would be interested to recruit her into the order.
Ginny is obviously a Gryffindor and a bit tomboyish so she would get along with most of the boys and girls. James could even like her, even develop a crush on her due to many similarities between them. Marauders will like her.
She would be an enigma for Snape, a strange and beautiful Gryffindor girl interested in spending time with him. Her friendship would gradually make Snape come out of his shell and he will value her friendship and even develop feelings for her.
I think she would get along with Lily for most of the part.
Quote from Naaga on July 20, 2023, 2:18 pmWhat if Ginny actually developed a crush on the young Sev? - It would be really interesting scenario. Ginny would have to get over Harry because he couldn't have him in such scenario and I don't see her liking James Potter despite similarities in looks with Harry. It would be interesting but have Ginny develop crush later, otherwise it would be weird to see her crushing over someone younger than her.
Would she even stand a chance against Lily? and Would Sev even be interested in her? : If she shows true kindness, willing to listen to Snape and aggressively support him against marauders, sure. Snape's love on Lily was based on her being only girl who liked Snape and showed kindness to him. So if Ginny tries her best, she stands a good hell of a chance. Same reason, if Ginny goes all in, Snape can definitely get interested in her.
And how would the others react to her?: As she was a trained and skilled member of DA, Dumbledore would be interested to recruit her into the order.
Ginny is obviously a Gryffindor and a bit tomboyish so she would get along with most of the boys and girls. James could even like her, even develop a crush on her due to many similarities between them. Marauders will like her.
She would be an enigma for Snape, a strange and beautiful Gryffindor girl interested in spending time with him. Her friendship would gradually make Snape come out of his shell and he will value her friendship and even develop feelings for her.
I think she would get along with Lily for most of the part.
In the matter of age:
I considered to maybe let her being thrown into 5th year with her made the same age, or do you think it would be better if she is there from the first year? It is true that she will need some time to get over Harry.
My opinion was that the first contact between her and Snape could actually be when he lashes out against Lily, maybe she also saw that hint of a smile on Lily's lips...
Supporting Sev:
I think you have a good point with that. If she does actually believe him when Lily didn't and also listened to him and didn't downplay what the marauders do to him... Yeah, I think she would stand a good chance.
The Others:
That would be so typical for Dumbledore, I didn't even think about it to be honest.
I also do agree that she would get along with most others.
What got my interest is your idea of James developing a crush on her, I mean they have a lot of similarities and probably would play Quidditch together. In that matter it is also interesting that the marauders probably would really like her and wouldn't understand why she likes Sev and actually goes against them.
Lily:
Interesting thought, but how would Lily feel when she dropped Sev and then suddenly James also loses interest in her for Ginny? Who now does spend a lot of time with Sev?
And maybe Ginny also got the other Gryffindor girls to even give Sev a chance...
Sev:
I agree with you once more, I think she also could wake a different side of Sev. Ginny definitely would be able to gain his trust and friendship, both developing to feelings for her with time.
You know... I just wanted a opinion but now you made me consider making it a fic 😀
I'd say go for it and write a fic. It would be better to introduce her in 6th year which is closer to her biological age and it would be realistic for her to develop crush on Snape in that case and also for Snape, because with absence of Lily, he'd be far more likely to develop interest in Ginny. Also pursue James having a crush on her and Ginny not giving him her time. It would be interesting to see Lily's reaction, her old best friend interested in other girl and her pursuer shifting his affection to this other girl. I would enjoy a good jealous Lily plotline and her temper tartrums.
A good plot would be Ginny getting along well with Marauders but reacting harshly against them for bullying, she won't shy away from using bat boogey curse against marauders, that's for sure. She definitely won't condone bullying and hexing others for fun because they could just for fun and laughs.
I don't think Severus would be Ginny's type at all. In canon she falls for the famous boy who lived and sth of a celebrity but also a Quidditch player. If anything, she'd fall right for James at first sight; someone who is popular, good looking and an athlete.
The bullying wouldn't bothered her that much either because she has a mean streak as well ( see how she and Molly hate Fleur). I kinda see her excusing it as well as Snape is a Slytherin, so that makes the bullying alright.
As for Severus, I highly doubt he'd give Lily up that easily but if we are talking about after their fall out, he may develop a crush on her as a substitute?
Quote from Naaga on July 20, 2023, 2:40 pmI'd say go for it and write a fic. It would be better to introduce her in 6th year which is closer to her biological age and it would be realistic for her to develop crush on Snape in that case and also for Snape, because with absence of Lily, he'd be far more likely to develop interest in Ginny. Also pursue James having a crush on her and Ginny not giving him her time. It would be interesting to see Lily's reaction, her old best friend interested in other girl and her pursuer shifting his affection to this other girl. I would enjoy a good jealous Lily plotline and her temper tartrums.
A good plot would be Ginny getting along well with Marauders but reacting harshly against them for bullying, she won't shy away from using bat boogey curse against marauders, that's for sure. She definitely won't condone bullying and hexing others for fun because they could just for fun and laughs.
You have a good point there, 6th year might be the better option to introduce her.
Maybe introducing her towards the end of summer break (5th to 6th year) would also be a good idea? Thought behind it is that she might be send back and directly stumbled upon an unconscious Sev who had been badly beaten up. Later it could be revealed that it was his dad.
So they meet the first time even before Hogwarts and she already helped him once.
I'm definitely up for the jealous Lily plotline and showing her reaction as well as temper tantrums.
But knowing myself that might end in a Ginny/Sev/Lily ship 😀
That is actually a nice idea, Ginny getting along with the Marauders besides James. She gives him the cold shoulder and ignores all advances of him, telling him off even harsher than Lily did in the past.
And she will definitely use the bad boogey curse more than once.
Quote from Dark Angel on July 20, 2023, 3:15 pmI don't think Severus would be Ginny's type at all. In canon she falls for the famous boy who lived and sth of a celebrity but also a Quidditch player. If anything, she'd fall right for James at first sight; someone who is popular, good looking and an athlete.
The bullying wouldn't bothered her that much either because she has a mean streak as well ( see how she and Molly hate Fleur). I kinda see her excusing it as well as Snape is a Slytherin, so that makes the bullying alright.
As for Severus, I highly doubt he'd give Lily up that easily but if we are talking about after their fall out, he may develop a crush on her as a substitute?
I see where you're coming from and that are valid points... But this Ginny comes from a time where Harry died and Voldemort won, where they lost the war.
Maybe she does even know the memories that Sev gave Harry.
Don't you think that would change her view of him?
Depending how things are going he could develop a crush on her, not just as substitute. But I think if she would behave as you said... Then he wouldn't develop a crush on her.
As I already said, you brought up valid points.
Quote from Bol_Stark on July 20, 2023, 3:19 pmQuote from Dark Angel on July 20, 2023, 3:15 pmI don't think Severus would be Ginny's type at all. In canon she falls for the famous boy who lived and sth of a celebrity but also a Quidditch player. If anything, she'd fall right for James at first sight; someone who is popular, good looking and an athlete.
The bullying wouldn't bothered her that much either because she has a mean streak as well ( see how she and Molly hate Fleur). I kinda see her excusing it as well as Snape is a Slytherin, so that makes the bullying alright.
As for Severus, I highly doubt he'd give Lily up that easily but if we are talking about after their fall out, he may develop a crush on her as a substitute?
I see where you're coming from and that are valid points... But this Ginny comes from a time where Harry died and Voldemort won, where they lost the war.
Maybe she does even know the memories that Sev gave Harry.
Don't you think that would change her view of him?Depending how things are going he could develop a crush on her, not just as substitute. But I think if she would behave as you said... Then he wouldn't develop a crush on her.
As I already said, you brought up valid points.
That really depends on when and how all things turned out bad for the light side. If Voldenort defeated Harry during the battle of Hogwarts, I highly doubt he had enough time to share the memories with other people. The only way would be if Ginny stumbled upon the memories in the pensieve which again would be difficult if Hogwarts had fallen.
And because she lost Harry in her original timeline, she would subconsciously use James as a substitute. Severus on the other hand, does not need a real substitute as his Lily is alive and well...at least for now. He may try to even get her to forgive him.
I would say it would be better if Ginny and Sev fall in love accidentally. If Ginny does know of the memories, she'd know that Snape brought the prophecy to Voldemort, she would try to prevent Voldemort from hunting down the Potters and Longbottoms in the first place by trying to prevent Snape from joining the Death Eaters. She plans to befriend him so she can influence his decisions but then ends up developing feelings for him.
Quote from Dark Angel on July 20, 2023, 3:40 pmThat really depends on when and how all things turned out bad for the light side. If Voldenort defeated Harry during the battle of Hogwarts, I highly doubt he had enough time to share the memories with other people. The only way would be if Ginny stumbled upon the memories in the pensieve which again would be difficult if Hogwarts had fallen.
And because she lost Harry in her original timeline, she would subconsciously use James as a substitute. Severus on the other hand, does not need a real substitute as his Lily is alive and well...at least for now. He may try to even get her to forgive him.
I would say it would be better if Ginny and Sev fall in love accidentally. If Ginny does know of the memories, she'd know that Snape brought the prophecy to Voldemort, she would try to prevent Voldemort from hunting down the Potters and Longbottoms in the first place by trying to prevent Snape from joining the Death Eaters. She plans to befriend him so she can influence his decisions but then ends up developing feelings for him.
You’re right, if Harry did fall during the battle it would have been hard for him to share the memories with her. Also that she got back to the headmaster office seems unlikely.
A scenario I could imagine is that after she did get killed she meets Harry and Dumbledore in the afterlife who show her the memories and make the offer to go back to the Marauder time.
True words again, James would remind her of Harry and Sev still has Lily around and might hope to get her to forgive him.
Even though, wouldn’t want Ginny that James and Lily get together so that Harry gets born?
I agree, them accidentally falling in love makes the most sense. Going from the point that she knew the memories it could be that Harry and/or Dumbledore told her that Sev is the key to winning the war much earlier, but that he needs to get down from the dark path he is on in that time of his life.
I like that it would give Ginny a Slytherin side, befriending him to have an influence. Even though it backfires when she develops feelings for him.
Quote from Bol_Stark on July 20, 2023, 4:50 pmQuote from Dark Angel on July 20, 2023, 3:40 pmThat really depends on when and how all things turned out bad for the light side. If Voldenort defeated Harry during the battle of Hogwarts, I highly doubt he had enough time to share the memories with other people. The only way would be if Ginny stumbled upon the memories in the pensieve which again would be difficult if Hogwarts had fallen.
And because she lost Harry in her original timeline, she would subconsciously use James as a substitute. Severus on the other hand, does not need a real substitute as his Lily is alive and well...at least for now. He may try to even get her to forgive him.
I would say it would be better if Ginny and Sev fall in love accidentally. If Ginny does know of the memories, she'd know that Snape brought the prophecy to Voldemort, she would try to prevent Voldemort from hunting down the Potters and Longbottoms in the first place by trying to prevent Snape from joining the Death Eaters. She plans to befriend him so she can influence his decisions but then ends up developing feelings for him.
You’re right, if Harry did fall during the battle it would have been hard for him to share the memories with her. Also that she got back to the headmaster office seems unlikely.
A scenario I could imagine is that after she did get killed she meets Harry and Dumbledore in the afterlife who show her the memories and make the offer to go back to the Marauder time.
True words again, James would remind her of Harry and Sev still has Lily around and might hope to get her to forgive him.
Even though, wouldn’t want Ginny that James and Lily get together so that Harry gets born?
I agree, them accidentally falling in love makes the most sense. Going from the point that she knew the memories it could be that Harry and/or Dumbledore told her that Sev is the key to winning the war much earlier, but that he needs to get down from the dark path he is on in that time of his life.
I like that it would give Ginny a Slytherin side, befriending him to have an influence. Even though it backfires when she develops feelings for him.
I think it would be better if Ginny doesn't know whole deal with Snape, just enough that he was responsible for prophecy and one of the key factor for wizarding world.
Ginny would try not to interfere with Lily/James. Mostly time travelling fics often doesn't interfere with canon ships unless they are subject of interest, Ginny would like Harry to be born so it would be amusing to see James chasing Ginny and Ginny wondering wtf is going on. 😹😹
Ginny would try to get closer to Snape to prevent him from joining DEs and better have him as an ally rather than an enemy.
James is personality wise opposite to Harry. While she could end up befriending James, his arrogance, toxic masculinity, obnoxiousness and entitlement won't suit Ginny.
Ginny is quite vicious herself but she often didn't start hexing at first unless other party offended her first. Marauders were often people who started hexing first.
Actually Snape is more closer to Harry's personality than James. Both are sarcastic, have dry sense of humour, sassy, vicious (Snape more than Harry) and loyal friends. Ginny also liked Half-blood Prince, who was a representation of teenage Snape so she would get along with real deal.
Accidentally falling for Snape is better, this Ginny is rather looking to save the world, get Harry a good family life he was denied and save her family members like her uncles Gideon and Fabian Prewett. She won't be exactly looking for a lover or boyfriend in the past, at least initially.
