Harry Potter Rants
Quote from Heatherlly on March 8, 2023, 2:55 amI'll take a look if you want to post it in the recommendations thread. If we did do it as a Round Robin though, there wouldn't be any shipping involved. Also, the character wouldn't be named Harriet (too overdone).
I'll take a look if you want to post it in the recommendations thread. If we did do it as a Round Robin though, there wouldn't be any shipping involved. Also, the character wouldn't be named Harriet (too overdone).
Quote from Naaga on March 9, 2023, 12:50 pmSnape wants the DADA position mostly for the end of school chance to murder Harry
I saw this at hpfanfiction, and I was like wtf, what the hell are you smoking !!
Snape wants the DADA position mostly for the end of school chance to murder Harry
I saw this at hpfanfiction, and I was like wtf, what the hell are you smoking !!
Quote from FIQ on March 9, 2023, 1:01 pmEh I saw it as a crack prompt. The fact that some people kept stressing that it was totally a legitimate thing he'd do though...
Eh I saw it as a crack prompt. The fact that some people kept stressing that it was totally a legitimate thing he'd do though...
Quote from Naaga on March 9, 2023, 1:11 pmThese category people are extreme Snaters, they are beyond the reason
These category people are extreme Snaters, they are beyond the reason
Quote from Naaga on March 9, 2023, 1:16 pmI have even seen Snaters bullying the Jew Snape fans for supporting a wizard Nazi. I mean c'mon, did you just compare the fictional terrorist cult to the literal fucking Nazis who had innumerable real life crimes, kids these days throw around whatever crap they imagine without understanding the context.
I have even seen Snaters bullying the Jew Snape fans for supporting a wizard Nazi. I mean c'mon, did you just compare the fictional terrorist cult to the literal fucking Nazis who had innumerable real life crimes, kids these days throw around whatever crap they imagine without understanding the context.
Quote from Heatherlly on March 20, 2023, 3:25 amI didn't want to put this in the quiz thread, but… I hate the concept of Ilvermorny and don't recognize it as canon. It feels like a lazy ripoff of Hogwarts, one that ignores significant cultural and geographical differences between North America and the UK.
- The United States is 40 times larger than the UK (i.e. England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland). 40 times larger! If you include Canada and Mexico, it would be roughly 100 times the size. By that logic, we should have several dozen magical schools, not just one.
- Boarding schools are much more of a thing in the UK/Europe than they are over here. I wish JKR had taken this into consideration and devised a system that was more reflective of this (i.e. day schools or at least more of a hybrid system).
Finally…
The four houses thing just pisses me off. Sure, it's an interesting concept in the original series, and we all have fun taking quizzes/getting sorted, but (in my opinion), it's a toxic and deeply dysfunctional system. It pigeonholes literal children, setting them up as rivals (and sometimes even enemies) for no good reason. Students and even teachers treat others unfairly based on their house affiliation, and for some characters (Severus included) being sorted into the wrong house can seriously fuck up your life.
I do accept this as part of Hogwarts/original canon, because let's face it – there were a lot of messed up things about that school. What I don't understand is copying that system and using it in other schools, as if it's healthy/normal or something other cultures would want to adopt. Why can't different cultures have their own unique systems? Why do the students have to be categorized at all? Again, this feels lazy (and a bit ignorant) on JKR's part, as if she assumed that what works in the UK would (and/or should) work everywhere else.
I didn't want to put this in the quiz thread, but… I hate the concept of Ilvermorny and don't recognize it as canon. It feels like a lazy ripoff of Hogwarts, one that ignores significant cultural and geographical differences between North America and the UK.
- The United States is 40 times larger than the UK (i.e. England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland). 40 times larger! If you include Canada and Mexico, it would be roughly 100 times the size. By that logic, we should have several dozen magical schools, not just one.
- Boarding schools are much more of a thing in the UK/Europe than they are over here. I wish JKR had taken this into consideration and devised a system that was more reflective of this (i.e. day schools or at least more of a hybrid system).
Finally…
The four houses thing just pisses me off. Sure, it's an interesting concept in the original series, and we all have fun taking quizzes/getting sorted, but (in my opinion), it's a toxic and deeply dysfunctional system. It pigeonholes literal children, setting them up as rivals (and sometimes even enemies) for no good reason. Students and even teachers treat others unfairly based on their house affiliation, and for some characters (Severus included) being sorted into the wrong house can seriously fuck up your life.
I do accept this as part of Hogwarts/original canon, because let's face it – there were a lot of messed up things about that school. What I don't understand is copying that system and using it in other schools, as if it's healthy/normal or something other cultures would want to adopt. Why can't different cultures have their own unique systems? Why do the students have to be categorized at all? Again, this feels lazy (and a bit ignorant) on JKR's part, as if she assumed that what works in the UK would (and/or should) work everywhere else.
Quote from The Gestalt Prince on March 20, 2023, 3:33 amYeah, you'd think that after the American Revolution, that Ilvermorny, being the North American Wizarding school, would reflect the values of... well, the place where it is. The Hogwarts School year system resembles the irl Scottish year system, and Wizarding Britain resembles that of Muggle Britain in terms of society and politics.
I could there being regional schools within the U.S., maybe one for New England, perhaps another for the West Coast, etc.
Yeah, you'd think that after the American Revolution, that Ilvermorny, being the North American Wizarding school, would reflect the values of... well, the place where it is. The Hogwarts School year system resembles the irl Scottish year system, and Wizarding Britain resembles that of Muggle Britain in terms of society and politics.
I could there being regional schools within the U.S., maybe one for New England, perhaps another for the West Coast, etc.
Quote from Heatherlly on March 20, 2023, 3:59 amRegion based makes the most sense, though even there, I think you'd need multiple schools for certain regions based on factors like population and geographical distance. Even travel logistics would be massively different… with the exception of perhaps New England, where New York is fairly accessible, it's not like all the students could meet in a single location and travel to/from school each year.
Also, as much as I love castles, that's another thing that bothers me. Castles are central to UK history, but they're basically nonexistent over here. Something that would've been more appropriately American (especially in New England) would be a campus of elegant Colonial style buildings or something similar. The architecture would depend on the region (e.g. Spanish style for Florida), but yeah… we Americans aren't "castle people". 😂
One other thing about having a single school for all of North America…
Our countries aren't blended together to the extent they are in the UK. Lumping them all together really is absurd.
Region based makes the most sense, though even there, I think you'd need multiple schools for certain regions based on factors like population and geographical distance. Even travel logistics would be massively different… with the exception of perhaps New England, where New York is fairly accessible, it's not like all the students could meet in a single location and travel to/from school each year.
Also, as much as I love castles, that's another thing that bothers me. Castles are central to UK history, but they're basically nonexistent over here. Something that would've been more appropriately American (especially in New England) would be a campus of elegant Colonial style buildings or something similar. The architecture would depend on the region (e.g. Spanish style for Florida), but yeah… we Americans aren't "castle people". 😂
One other thing about having a single school for all of North America…
Our countries aren't blended together to the extent they are in the UK. Lumping them all together really is absurd.
Quote from Naaga on March 20, 2023, 4:22 am@heatherlly, there are more Wizarding schools than the listed ones in the Wizarding World website. The listed ones are simply the most popular ones.
So, take for example the US itself. It is huge and only Ilvermorny can't cater the demands of the whole US and North American population.
Other example is Asia, JKR only put the Mahoutokoro as sole wizarding school which is located in Japan. There is no way populous countries like India and China would send their kids to Japan so they obviously have their own schools, multiple in fact.
There is also home schooling option. In UK, many children didn't attend the Hogwarts and started attending only after Voldemort made attendance in Hogwarts compulsory in the DH.
The vast majority of countries in the world did not have their own wizarding school. Wizards and witches in these countries generally chose to homeschool their children instead. Correspondence courses were also sometimes used as a cost-effective method of providing magical instruction to young witches and wizards in countries with very small or isolated wizarding populations.
Wizarding schools generally admitted students from whatever country in which they were based, but some served multiple nations or a broad geographical region, or at least were open to accepting international students on a selective basis. Castelobruxo, Ilvermorny and Uagadou accepted students from all over their respective continents, whereas Hogwarts only accepted students from the United Kingdom and Ireland.
The school with the smallest number of students was Mahoutokoro, and the school with the most students was Uagadou.
Some schools also enforced special restrictions with regard to the admission of students. The Durmstrang Institute, for example, did not accept Muggle-born witches and wizards.
The Educational Office of the International Confederation of Wizards was responsible for cataloguing and overseeing wizarding schools around the world, namely the eleven oldest, most respected ones. Smaller wizarding schools existed, but these were often short-lived and poorly-regulated, as most were not registered with the respective Ministry of Magic of the country in which they operated. The quality of magical education on offer at these smaller, unregistered institutions was thus questionable. Africa was known to have been home to a number of smaller wizarding schools in addition to Uagadou. The book An Appraisal of Magical Education in Europe covered publicly available information on various wizarding schools in Europe.
@heatherlly, there are more Wizarding schools than the listed ones in the Wizarding World website. The listed ones are simply the most popular ones.
So, take for example the US itself. It is huge and only Ilvermorny can't cater the demands of the whole US and North American population.
Other example is Asia, JKR only put the Mahoutokoro as sole wizarding school which is located in Japan. There is no way populous countries like India and China would send their kids to Japan so they obviously have their own schools, multiple in fact.
There is also home schooling option. In UK, many children didn't attend the Hogwarts and started attending only after Voldemort made attendance in Hogwarts compulsory in the DH.
The vast majority of countries in the world did not have their own wizarding school. Wizards and witches in these countries generally chose to homeschool their children instead. Correspondence courses were also sometimes used as a cost-effective method of providing magical instruction to young witches and wizards in countries with very small or isolated wizarding populations.
Wizarding schools generally admitted students from whatever country in which they were based, but some served multiple nations or a broad geographical region, or at least were open to accepting international students on a selective basis. Castelobruxo, Ilvermorny and Uagadou accepted students from all over their respective continents, whereas Hogwarts only accepted students from the United Kingdom and Ireland.
The school with the smallest number of students was Mahoutokoro, and the school with the most students was Uagadou.
Some schools also enforced special restrictions with regard to the admission of students. The Durmstrang Institute, for example, did not accept Muggle-born witches and wizards.
The Educational Office of the International Confederation of Wizards was responsible for cataloguing and overseeing wizarding schools around the world, namely the eleven oldest, most respected ones. Smaller wizarding schools existed, but these were often short-lived and poorly-regulated, as most were not registered with the respective Ministry of Magic of the country in which they operated. The quality of magical education on offer at these smaller, unregistered institutions was thus questionable. Africa was known to have been home to a number of smaller wizarding schools in addition to Uagadou. The book An Appraisal of Magical Education in Europe covered publicly available information on various wizarding schools in Europe.