Weekly Discussion: Favoritism
Quote from Noctivagant on July 28, 2023, 4:09 pmHonest answer: I assume he would have not only been even more protective, but also a lot less mean. He knows Harry's the son of Lily and James, however, Snape is a man of logic (most of the time), so he also understands that Harry is his own person. Harry looked a lot like James, which made it easy for Snape to projected his hate for James onto Harry (even more than by just knowing he's Jame's son). Had Harry been a girl with Lily's features, he'd have been able to project more of Lily onto her. Ofc, that would have made him treat her more nicely. Maybe she even would have been his favorite student, though he still would have had some bits of resentment, because when Voldemort wanted to kill Harry, he begged Voldemort to spare (only) Lily's life. Probably that was obvious (?).
Honest answer: I assume he would have not only been even more protective, but also a lot less mean. He knows Harry's the son of Lily and James, however, Snape is a man of logic (most of the time), so he also understands that Harry is his own person. Harry looked a lot like James, which made it easy for Snape to projected his hate for James onto Harry (even more than by just knowing he's Jame's son). Had Harry been a girl with Lily's features, he'd have been able to project more of Lily onto her. Ofc, that would have made him treat her more nicely. Maybe she even would have been his favorite student, though he still would have had some bits of resentment, because when Voldemort wanted to kill Harry, he begged Voldemort to spare (only) Lily's life. Probably that was obvious (?).
Quote from Dark Angel on July 29, 2023, 8:55 amI mostly agree with @noctivagant I also imagine that he would be even more protective of her but instead of making her a victim to his grudge against James Potter, she would be his constant reminder of he had gotten his best friend killed, a mini version of Lily that haunts him like a ghost. I think he would do his best to ignore her during lessons and try to avoid looking into Lily's face. He wouldn't give her failing grades but he most probably wouldn't even call on her because interacting with the child would be way too painful for him.
I mostly agree with @noctivagant I also imagine that he would be even more protective of her but instead of making her a victim to his grudge against James Potter, she would be his constant reminder of he had gotten his best friend killed, a mini version of Lily that haunts him like a ghost. I think he would do his best to ignore her during lessons and try to avoid looking into Lily's face. He wouldn't give her failing grades but he most probably wouldn't even call on her because interacting with the child would be way too painful for him.
Quote from Naaga on July 29, 2023, 11:26 amI agree with @noctivagant and @darkangel over Snape's treatment of fem Harry, learning towards latter's reason.
A Lily like child would be too painful remainder for Snape and he would more likely to avoid her. He would feel more protective towards her and certainly won't be out for her blood like he did with Harry.
And one thing he won't absolutely do, grooming or preying on Lily's daughter which Snaters often assume he would do.
I agree with @noctivagant and @darkangel over Snape's treatment of fem Harry, learning towards latter's reason.
A Lily like child would be too painful remainder for Snape and he would more likely to avoid her. He would feel more protective towards her and certainly won't be out for her blood like he did with Harry.
And one thing he won't absolutely do, grooming or preying on Lily's daughter which Snaters often assume he would do.
Quote from Dark Angel on July 29, 2023, 3:46 pmQuote from Naaga on July 29, 2023, 11:26 amI agree with @noctivagant and @darkangel over Snape's treatment of fem Harry, learning towards latter's reason.
A Lily like child would be too painful remainder for Snape and he would more likely to avoid her. He would feel more protective towards her and certainly won't be out for her blood like he did with Harry.
And one thing he won't absolutely do, grooming or preying on Lily's daughter which Snaters often assume he would do.
Ah, yes, I completely forgot to add that I wouldn't expect our dear Professor to go full pedo in this scenario. If he seriously was going to replace Lily with a little version of her, he would have done so with Ginny.
Quote from Naaga on July 29, 2023, 11:26 amI agree with @noctivagant and @darkangel over Snape's treatment of fem Harry, learning towards latter's reason.
A Lily like child would be too painful remainder for Snape and he would more likely to avoid her. He would feel more protective towards her and certainly won't be out for her blood like he did with Harry.
And one thing he won't absolutely do, grooming or preying on Lily's daughter which Snaters often assume he would do.
Ah, yes, I completely forgot to add that I wouldn't expect our dear Professor to go full pedo in this scenario. If he seriously was going to replace Lily with a little version of her, he would have done so with Ginny.
Quote from FIQ on July 31, 2023, 5:28 amA "true" inversion, i.e. mini-Lily with James' eyes? I think Snape would try to interact with her as little as possible. She would give him an effect akin to the uncanny valley, a replica of Lily's appearance during the time when they were best friends, but her eyes would be... just wrong.
But if she kept Lily's eyes, down to basically being a perfect clone? He would likely treat her as one of his Slytherins; looking out for her, and treating her respectfully unlike with Harry. He wouldn't try to be outright friendly close, that would be kinda weird, at most he might fulfill a mentoring role if she decided to seek him out for questions and similar.
A "true" inversion, i.e. mini-Lily with James' eyes? I think Snape would try to interact with her as little as possible. She would give him an effect akin to the uncanny valley, a replica of Lily's appearance during the time when they were best friends, but her eyes would be... just wrong.
But if she kept Lily's eyes, down to basically being a perfect clone? He would likely treat her as one of his Slytherins; looking out for her, and treating her respectfully unlike with Harry. He wouldn't try to be outright friendly close, that would be kinda weird, at most he might fulfill a mentoring role if she decided to seek him out for questions and similar.
Quote from Naaga on July 31, 2023, 5:31 amQuote from FIQ on July 31, 2023, 5:28 amA "true" inversion, i.e. mini-Lily with James' eyes? I think Snape would try to interact with her as little as possible. She would give him an effect akin to the uncanny valley, a replica of Lily's appearance during the time when they were best friends, but her eyes would be... just wrong.
But if she kept Lily's eyes, down to basically being a perfect clone? He would likely treat her as one of his Slytherins; looking out for her, and treating her respectfully unlike with Harry. He wouldn't try to be outright friendly close, that would be kinda weird, at most he might fulfill a mentoring role if she decided to seek him out for questions and similar.
I feel a true inversion would be a girl with appearance of Lily with James' eyes and personality like purely arrogant, infuriating and exactly being like he perceived canon Harry. In that scenario, I feel he would treat her like he treated Harry.
Quote from FIQ on July 31, 2023, 5:28 amA "true" inversion, i.e. mini-Lily with James' eyes? I think Snape would try to interact with her as little as possible. She would give him an effect akin to the uncanny valley, a replica of Lily's appearance during the time when they were best friends, but her eyes would be... just wrong.
But if she kept Lily's eyes, down to basically being a perfect clone? He would likely treat her as one of his Slytherins; looking out for her, and treating her respectfully unlike with Harry. He wouldn't try to be outright friendly close, that would be kinda weird, at most he might fulfill a mentoring role if she decided to seek him out for questions and similar.
I feel a true inversion would be a girl with appearance of Lily with James' eyes and personality like purely arrogant, infuriating and exactly being like he perceived canon Harry. In that scenario, I feel he would treat her like he treated Harry.
Quote from The Gestalt Prince on August 6, 2023, 1:25 am27. What is Snape's weirdest choice as a character, something that either doesn't make sense, or something that would make sense for another character?
27. What is Snape's weirdest choice as a character, something that either doesn't make sense, or something that would make sense for another character?
Quote from Dark Angel on August 6, 2023, 10:39 amJoining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
Joining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
Quote from Giorgia on August 6, 2023, 11:30 amQuote from Dark Angel on August 6, 2023, 10:39 amJoining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
I agree in everything.
And shall we talk about the statement made again by Rowling where she stated that Lily would have chosen Severus if he had not joined the Death Eaters?
If he had known, I think he would have jumped off the Astronomy tower at 20😂.
Quote from Dark Angel on August 6, 2023, 10:39 amJoining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
I agree in everything.
And shall we talk about the statement made again by Rowling where she stated that Lily would have chosen Severus if he had not joined the Death Eaters?
If he had known, I think he would have jumped off the Astronomy tower at 20😂.
Quote from Naaga on August 6, 2023, 12:01 pmQuote from Giorgia on August 6, 2023, 11:30 amQuote from Dark Angel on August 6, 2023, 10:39 amJoining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
I agree in everything.
And shall we talk about the statement made again by Rowling where she stated that Lily would have chosen Severus if he had not joined the Death Eaters?
If he had known, I think he would have jumped off the Astronomy tower at 20😂.Snape's reaction after learning this 😹:
Quote from Giorgia on August 6, 2023, 11:30 amQuote from Dark Angel on August 6, 2023, 10:39 amJoining the Death Eaters in an attempt to impress Lily, this is supposedly Rowling's explanation and nothing in canon proves it but it's ridiculous. At least it would be better to clarify that he joined due to his blood status, lack of other powerful connections and his precarious financial situation.
During their last talk in front of the Gryffindor tower entrance, Lily makes it clear that if he sticks with the Death Eaters, he will be walking down a different path than hers and he doesn't deny this. Rowling's statement that he chose Mulciber over Lily rings true much better than the excuse that he wanted to impress her.
I agree in everything.
And shall we talk about the statement made again by Rowling where she stated that Lily would have chosen Severus if he had not joined the Death Eaters?
If he had known, I think he would have jumped off the Astronomy tower at 20😂.
Snape's reaction after learning this 😹: